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02 September 2010 The LMS Twins Project

The Rails LMS Twins Project HAS NOT been cancelled. We have seen nothing to suggest it should be.

Following recent announcements from a competitive manufacturer / retailer partnership, a number of discussions have taken place within Rails and with Bachmann Europe Ltd.

The good news is that our project continues apace. Our competitors have set a very aggressive target date for their first release and only time will tell if this will be achieved.

When we initially announced our project, we made it quite clear that we would solicit expressions of interest to help us determine which would be the most popular liveries and which liveries were not. It is now clear, following this feedback, that it is not commercially viable to proceed with certainly one of these liveries.

The livery in doubt is 10001 in Brunswick Green with full eggshell blue waistband but WITHOUT the small yellow warning panel. This livery was only carried for a short period and demand has been very, very low. Details will be published on this site shortly.

However, it is almost certain that the first release will be of both locomotives in their original black and chrome liveries, with 10000 carrying the LMS lettering on the body side. Locomotive 10001 did not carry LMS lettering as it was not completed until after nationalisation.

In addition to both locomotives being available separately, we will also be producing a presentation box set containing both locomotives along with a certificate and a Royal Scot headboard. 

We are not in a position to provide final prices until the detailed design work has been completed.Final prices will be published as soon as possible.


  1. John Hastings-Thomson 05/09/2010 at 11:55 AM

    I am delighted to hear the news that the project is to progress and that it is probable that the twins will produced in their original black livery, which is my choice. I have every confidence in the quality of the product that is to be produced and I am certainly prepared to wait for the "Rail Version" to appear.

  2. ANTHONY JOHNSON 06/09/2010 at 02:12 PM

    It's interesting to see that, following the Kernow/Dapol announcement of the the 3 SR diesel prototypes, they will be available in 28 months time yet Hattons/Dapol say thy wiill have their LMS twins out in only 6 months after announcement. Dapol have been working on their class 22 for nearly 3 years now but still no signs. I'd much rather wait for the Bachmann model which I am sure will be of superior quslity.

  3. Ray Green 07/09/2010 at 07:47 AM

    Excellent news! I have ordered both LMS twins off you, I know Bachmann always do a good job in producing loverly model locomotives and rolling stock, so it is nice to know yourselves and Bachmann will be continuing with this project. Thank you.

  4. PETER CHANDLER 09/09/2010 at 02:15 PM

    Hope that green livery/partial eggshell is not to be dropped for 00 or 01. Still have my order with you, have attracted some flak by suggesting Kernow should do one of the triplets in green, seems a no brainer to me. Cheers Peter C.

  5. Brian Haselum 14/09/2010 at 01:44 AM

    I ordered 10001 in her last livery Brunswick Green with full eggshell blue waistband and small yellow warning panel. I hope this too isn't one of the cancelled editions,this livery was worn until her scrapping in the late 60's. She was stored at Willesden DED when I worked there

  6. Discussion Moderator 14/09/2010 at 06:55 PM

    There is no need for either Peter or Brian to worry about their preferred liveries being dropped.

  7. David Johnhill Emerton 15/09/2010 at 06:18 PM

    DAVID EMERTON 15/09/2010 @ 1809 HRS Having read your web page and the recent annoucemements re; Hattons/Dapol plans to produce their own versions of the LMS Twins, I am greatly relieved your are still going ahead with Bachmann. I will continue to support your plans and confirm my earlier intention to order both LMS 10000 & 10001 in Black & Chrome finish, preferably both in a presentation box. Obviously we do not have a price yet but I am confident that Rails will sell at a competitive price. Thank you for clearing up the uncertainty.

  8. Paul Redding 04/12/2010 at 06:05 PM

    Stay with the programme Rails - your collaboration will be the superior product.

  9. Brian Haselum 04/12/2010 at 10:19 PM

    How about some Stanier non corridor stock to go with these loco's. !0001 was regularly rostered on Euston-Tring commuter trains in the early sixties. Also a Cowans Sheldon 75 ton Breakdown Crane wouldn't go amiss either,both these diesel loco's would be seen on the occasional engineering work and derailments.

  10. Ken Taylor 22/02/2011 at 11:20 AM

    The last update on your website was dated September 2010., As somebody who has pre-ordered it would be helpful to know of progress since that date. Many thanks.

  11. Derek Grant 18/04/2011 at 01:40 AM

    Bachmann, dear I say, are a far superior manufacturer than the competition, this was what was agreed when the well known model shop in Cornwall conceded when, the thumper was taken over to manufacture by Bachmann from the previous company, the very same company this time that are competing with the LMS twins! You cannot beat class. Derek Grant. 18th April 2011

  12. John Savage 07/08/2011 at 10:36 AM

    In the LMS Twins range wouldn't the green livery (with small yellow warning panel) shown for 31997 have been carried from 1962-1966, not 1957-1961?

  13. LMS Moderator 07/11/2011 at 02:29 PM

    You are right John. There was some mis-understanding at Bachmann when their catalogue went to the publishers. The catalogue is also wrong in that it states it has a partial blue waistband. It should have a full blue waistband whjen carryingf the small yellow warning panel. Bachmann are aware of this and you can be assured the model will be correct when released.

  14. LMS Moderator 07/11/2011 at 02:34 PM

    First of all, my sincere apologies for noit spending enough time on the LMS Twins discussions. I've had a series of operations in the last few months and have had to have significant time off work. I have now updated the main section above to give everyone some indication of progress and expected release dates.

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